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Jul. 21st, 2014 10:33 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
naushikaI'm probably getting my hopes up too high, but I'm kind of crossing my fingers that one of the upcoming, not-yet-named Marvel movies is going to be focused on a lady superhero. I've been thinking a lot about who they might choose, if they do.
Here are my top 3 most likelies:
Captain Marvel - Strongest contender. She's very popular right now, and she's the one that fandom is loudest about. My only thoughts on why they might not do a Cap movie is because 1) it could be a little on-the-nose to have a character named Captain Marvel in a Marvel movie, and 2) she is a Captain, Captain America is a Captain, and Hollywood generally thinks movie audiences are dumber than a bag of rocks, so maybe they won't want to "confuse" people. Even so, if I were betting on this, I would bet on Captain Marvel being the choice.
Black Widow - Second strongest contender. The only reason I don't think Nat has a better chance than Carol is that she's already been in a few movies. They've missed their chance to do her origin story, most likely - because would they really suddenly do a movie set in the past when the whole Marvel movie universe is on a clear chronology? There was the first Cap movie but that was ages ago. Dunno if they'd do that again. Also, I find it possible tptb's attitude on Black Widow is that she has been "done." Of course I don't personally think that, but she has been in a few of the MCU films now. They might want to do a new character. But points in her favor is she's a known quality, fans know and like Black Widow and Scarjo, so the chances of people not seeing a Black Widow movie are basically nil.
Sharon Carter - There was a whhhoooooole lotta talk about her being in Cap 2 and then.. well.. her role was pretty underwhelming. I feel like her being in the movie was really just a taster for a larger role she'll have elsewhere. Possibly in her own movie. I've never really been like a huge Sharon Carter fan, but she could be the kind of movie echo of the upcoming Agent Carter show - secret agent lady, kicking butt and taking names, without the help of any special powers. I would love to see that.
Here are my top 3 movies I most want but I don't think there is a high chance:
Spider-Woman - Jess is basically my fave and I would sign my soul over to Marvel if they'd do a Spider-Woman movie. But I doubt they ever would because, again, a) Hollywood thinks audiences are dumb, and Spider-Woman is too close to Spider-Man and people might be ~*~confused~*~, and b) they might just not want to even remind people of Spider-Man, since those movie rights are with Sony, and even though Spider-Woman and Spider-Man have basically nothing to do with each other, they probably would just not want to go there.
She-Hulk - A LAWYER/SUPERHERO MOVIE, IT WOULD BE SO GOOOOOOOD. hahaha. But her origin story isn't particularly exciting, and they would probably consider it too much of a retread of the Hulk's story overall. Even though I disagree heartily since Jen doesn't have the issues that Bruce does. I just don't see this as likely.
Wasp - If she gets into any movie, it will be Ant-Man, and the rumors I've heard so far haven't given me much confidence of her having a large role there (if any). Also I have a lot of rage against the Ant-Man movie when tptb talk about how Ant-Man is a key Avenger and I'm like ok but Wasp was one of the co-founders of The Avengers tho. She is also a key Avenger. There's only been one cast announcement for a woman, which is Evangeline Lilly, but they haven't said who she is cast as. I could see her being Jan in the Ant-Man, and I think it is likely. I'm going to be crushed if she is not the Wasp in it though, know what I mean? If she's just "Jan the love interest."
Some others I think that are just not going to happen:
- Elektra or Echo. Based on the nuggets of info coming out about the upcoming Netflix series, either Elektra or Echo is going to be in it. And I personally think they're not gonna touch Elektra with a ten-foot pole after that one dismal failure of a movie.
- Sif, Valkyrie. They've got Thor and Loki, too many more Asgardians would be overkill, and Sif and Valkyrie don't really have reasons to be on Earth or associated with it. But then again, they made Guardians of the Galaxy, which likely is going to have very little to do with Earth. So who knows?
- Any ladies part of a team. Kate Bishop (see also: "too confusing for audiences"), basically any mutant (except maybe Firestar?), Sue Richards, etc.
- Any newer characters, like Ms Marvel, Miss America, or Darla Deering.
It is also possible they'll pull some more obscure character out to make a movie about. Also I'm not the biggest expert on Marvel comics or anything, there's probably some really well known characters I'm not even thinking of. They might branch out - bring in Inhumans maybe? Medusa? Maybe Mockingbird? (I would love a Mockingbird movie actually.)
IDK I've just been thinking a lot about it, trying to predict what Marvel might do. (Which is hard sometimes since they do manage to keep surprising me! I'm hoping I will be surprised yet again. :D)
Here are my top 3 most likelies:
Captain Marvel - Strongest contender. She's very popular right now, and she's the one that fandom is loudest about. My only thoughts on why they might not do a Cap movie is because 1) it could be a little on-the-nose to have a character named Captain Marvel in a Marvel movie, and 2) she is a Captain, Captain America is a Captain, and Hollywood generally thinks movie audiences are dumber than a bag of rocks, so maybe they won't want to "confuse" people. Even so, if I were betting on this, I would bet on Captain Marvel being the choice.
Black Widow - Second strongest contender. The only reason I don't think Nat has a better chance than Carol is that she's already been in a few movies. They've missed their chance to do her origin story, most likely - because would they really suddenly do a movie set in the past when the whole Marvel movie universe is on a clear chronology? There was the first Cap movie but that was ages ago. Dunno if they'd do that again. Also, I find it possible tptb's attitude on Black Widow is that she has been "done." Of course I don't personally think that, but she has been in a few of the MCU films now. They might want to do a new character. But points in her favor is she's a known quality, fans know and like Black Widow and Scarjo, so the chances of people not seeing a Black Widow movie are basically nil.
Sharon Carter - There was a whhhoooooole lotta talk about her being in Cap 2 and then.. well.. her role was pretty underwhelming. I feel like her being in the movie was really just a taster for a larger role she'll have elsewhere. Possibly in her own movie. I've never really been like a huge Sharon Carter fan, but she could be the kind of movie echo of the upcoming Agent Carter show - secret agent lady, kicking butt and taking names, without the help of any special powers. I would love to see that.
Here are my top 3 movies I most want but I don't think there is a high chance:
Spider-Woman - Jess is basically my fave and I would sign my soul over to Marvel if they'd do a Spider-Woman movie. But I doubt they ever would because, again, a) Hollywood thinks audiences are dumb, and Spider-Woman is too close to Spider-Man and people might be ~*~confused~*~, and b) they might just not want to even remind people of Spider-Man, since those movie rights are with Sony, and even though Spider-Woman and Spider-Man have basically nothing to do with each other, they probably would just not want to go there.
She-Hulk - A LAWYER/SUPERHERO MOVIE, IT WOULD BE SO GOOOOOOOD. hahaha. But her origin story isn't particularly exciting, and they would probably consider it too much of a retread of the Hulk's story overall. Even though I disagree heartily since Jen doesn't have the issues that Bruce does. I just don't see this as likely.
Wasp - If she gets into any movie, it will be Ant-Man, and the rumors I've heard so far haven't given me much confidence of her having a large role there (if any). Also I have a lot of rage against the Ant-Man movie when tptb talk about how Ant-Man is a key Avenger and I'm like ok but Wasp was one of the co-founders of The Avengers tho. She is also a key Avenger. There's only been one cast announcement for a woman, which is Evangeline Lilly, but they haven't said who she is cast as. I could see her being Jan in the Ant-Man, and I think it is likely. I'm going to be crushed if she is not the Wasp in it though, know what I mean? If she's just "Jan the love interest."
Some others I think that are just not going to happen:
- Elektra or Echo. Based on the nuggets of info coming out about the upcoming Netflix series, either Elektra or Echo is going to be in it. And I personally think they're not gonna touch Elektra with a ten-foot pole after that one dismal failure of a movie.
- Sif, Valkyrie. They've got Thor and Loki, too many more Asgardians would be overkill, and Sif and Valkyrie don't really have reasons to be on Earth or associated with it. But then again, they made Guardians of the Galaxy, which likely is going to have very little to do with Earth. So who knows?
- Any ladies part of a team. Kate Bishop (see also: "too confusing for audiences"), basically any mutant (except maybe Firestar?), Sue Richards, etc.
- Any newer characters, like Ms Marvel, Miss America, or Darla Deering.
It is also possible they'll pull some more obscure character out to make a movie about. Also I'm not the biggest expert on Marvel comics or anything, there's probably some really well known characters I'm not even thinking of. They might branch out - bring in Inhumans maybe? Medusa? Maybe Mockingbird? (I would love a Mockingbird movie actually.)
IDK I've just been thinking a lot about it, trying to predict what Marvel might do. (Which is hard sometimes since they do manage to keep surprising me! I'm hoping I will be surprised yet again. :D)
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Date: 2014-07-22 08:47 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2014-07-22 09:11 am (UTC)to be honest i'll be PRETTTY disappointed if we don't get a lady superhero movie. IN FACT I WANT TWO.
I def think Black Panther is in there, and i'm assuming Thor 2 & 3 but at this point they'd be silly not to do a Black Widow movie (just give it to meeeeeeeeee) and GoTG 2 as well.
However, my money is mostly on Cap. Marvel. I think its probably the most sellable concept even though i would prefer movies about other people.
I WILL BE SO MUCH FROWN FACE IF WASP ISN'T WASP.
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Date: 2014-07-22 07:52 pm (UTC)... but noooo, instead it's Scott Lang's story, which, y'know, I have no problem with Scott Lang, but AARGH. Oh, Marvel. How can you do some things so very right, and others so wrong?
I think the only thing doubtful about Captain Marvel is that they might feel her power set/overall story gestalt overlaps too closely with Steve and/or Tony's movie franchises. One thing they've said in interviews is that they're trying to focus on characters for the solo movies that bring in a unique feeling/flavor (I can't remember exactly how it was phrased, but that's the idea -- that they can bring in a new genre of movie, kind of like how Thor's movies are fantasy, Steve's are espionage/war movie, etc). Which is why Dr. Strange is such a big contender for his own movie right now. Unfortunately this makes a lot of the female heroes an even HARDER sell, and they've squandered a few of the really promising ones, like Wanda (who covers a lot of Dr. Strange territory, but is being
wastedintroduced as part of a villain ensemble).I still feel that Black Widow is the best contender for a solo movie, except for the issues that you pointed out about the timing. If she'd gotten her own introductory movie in Phase 1, that would've been PERFECT; as it is, the likelihood of a Widow movie goes down with each passing year, IMHO, the more the other movies cover her story. Still, she's the one my money is on right now, with Carol Danvers as the runner-up.
If we're making a female character wish list, top of mine is probably a Rescue movie starring Extremis!Pepper. Rhodey would need to be in it, of course, and a l'il bit of Tony. It would even work so well with the fact that they don't seem to be planning more Iron Man movies (as far as I know), because that'd be a PERFECT set-up to segue into Pepper and/or Rhodey movies to keep the Iron Man side of the franchise going, with Tony as a side character but not the main one.